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Coil Porn - show us your winds

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomisers' started by DaveJ, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. Heath Stephens

    Heath Stephens New Member

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    Quite right.... lol

    Stupid is astill stupid does... its actually 0.4 ohms...my bad..
     
  2. Heath Stephens

    Heath Stephens New Member

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    Yeah I would of done if I didn't need to have .4 ohms... for both my serit's mech and series box.

    And 22 guage kanthal you generally need 12 to 13 wraps 3mm ID to get to .5 to .6 in dual coil.
     
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  3. emu

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  4. Noe

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    Clapception pre-made DiY coil build & comparison to other pre-made DiY coils:

    First of all, these coil's legs are thick, they wont fit on many atties because of the thickness of the legs, you need post holes that are large.
    Next, these won't fit on many RBA decks due to their outer dia., you'll see below I used the Hobo V3 RDA to put my build on & had to take a wrap off the coil, then space the 3 remaining wraps to get the coil to fit into the deck without shorting on the deck or the barrel.
    These would work very well in the Ijoy Limitless plus RDTA or Ijoy Combo RDTA or other similar style atties with large decks to build on & large post holes to trap the wire legs. I actually got these thinking I would use them in the Limitless plus but the build I have in my Limitless plus is working so well I didn't want to disturb it, however I did want to try these new coils out so settled on the Hobo V3 to build on.
    To make these coils work on the Hobo V3, I had to first use a round pointy ended jewelers file on the Hobo's post holes, to widen them just a little for easier fitting, the legs did fit but they were catching a little so using the file stoped that & allowed the legs to pass through smoothly.

    The other thing I had to do to get this build to work, was unscrew the pos post a little, using a screwdriver on the 510 pin, while holding the pos post with a pair of pliers, then retighten the 510 pin after angling the pos post a little off center. Sounds easy but it was tricky to get the pos post in just the right position, without it sliding around while tightening the 510 pin & without the angling the coil would have been touching on the AFC topcap when I put the atty back together.
    Like I said these coils need a large deck & angling the pos post made the deck larger on one side than it otherwise would be, the danger here is the pos post has a peek insulator beneath it & my post post now only 1/2 rests on the insulator, which could possibly cause a short from the pos post to the base or have the insulator crack if you get it wrong.

    So yes this is a "boring" 3 wrap, spaced, single, clapception coil build, which runs at 0.5ohm but it really can take a lot of wattage to power up properly, unlike a regular single strand coil build, which I would run at around 17-20W I have pushed this build to 40W & it feels like it could take more.
    The Clapception has a single round core wire with a clapton wire claptoned around it, so it's a claptoned clapton, clapception is easier to say LOL
    I have another type of clapception pre-made coils here(which I also haven't tried yet) that uses a flat wire for the core, with a claptoned clapton around it, it is also not quite as thick as the ones I used & the outer dia. is not as big, so it should fit on more decks.

    Anyway here's a shot comparing 6 different types of premade coils, top left & top center are Kanthal A1 fused claptons (2 different brands) top right says it is Kanthal A1 "alien" coils but these are really stappled claptons, bottom left is the flat inner wire clapception which uses both Kanthal & SS wires, bottom center is SS clapton coils & bottom left is the coil I used Kanthal Clapception.

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    For this next shot I moved the center coils down & pushed the left & right coils in, laying the coils on their sides to give a good idea of diameters:
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    This shot is a close up of the 2 flatwire cored wires & the clapception & clapton, which gives you a better idea of their comparitive sizes:
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    This is the coil I used & I wanted to show how big it is on a deck many vapers will have used, so for this I chose the Kanger Subtank RBA deck, which a lot of RBA users & even non-RBA users will know for size of coil head(deck).
    Yes that is the leg going through the wick hole & it only just fits into the wick hole on the barrel, the coil inside is I think 26 or 28 guage Kanthal (whatever Kanger supplied as I have never used it lol) & as you can see the leg is almost the same diameter as the coil installed.
    There is no way the clapception will fit under those screws to trap the legs, even if I could make it work inside the barrel:
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    Here I have the build finally metered out at 0.51 ohm & ready to test fire:
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    First glow (flash was on forthis shot, then I turned it off):
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    Warming up:
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    Almost a full glow (it's hard to fire the button , hold the camera & snap the shot all at the same time, this took several attempts):
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    And lastly, what I consider the best shot of all, a picture capturing the inner core wire glowing with the outer clapton still heating up, as you might have guessed from this shot, this wire has the staged heating effect when you vape on it!:

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  5. emu

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    That's huge Noe, I've been looking at the Eleaf oppo 22mm but I won't be using that coil by the looks of it :shake:
     
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  6. Noe

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    Yep, they are big LOL I've seen bigger but not in pre-mades.
    The SS claptons would probably be what you'd like, since you like TC mode & they will fit or can be made to fit with a rewind on most decks.
     
  7. KayP

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    @Noe those are beefy coils :thumbup:
     
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  8. Noe

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    It pumps out flavor!
    For a single coil, it's got as much flavor as my dual build on my Limitless Plus, maybe more(I really need to change the wicks on the LP to compare properly).
     
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  9. Gasman

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    I know this is nothing to do with me but I was beginning to tear my hair out with the Merlin RTA but I think I've just realised my mistake.

    I was having leaking problems with the Merlin.
    I watched numerous reviews and tried quite a few different wicking methods but it continually leaked until a couple of mm above the JFC ports.
    Every reviewer said how easy it was to build on and it is but that is until it met me and I stuffed it up.
    All o rings were in place and the tank was assembled nice and tight.

    I filled it up about 2 hours ago but did so very slowly.
    As I type I'm touching wood ( my head) and it finally seems to be playing ball with the juice remaining in the tank.

    Excess pressure or JFC not operating correctly?

    I don't know but I just thought I'd mention it.
     
  10. Noe

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    It's possible, too much internal pressure will cause it to leak no matter how good the wicking job is.
    Personally, I would have stuffed the wicks in & tried to cause it to leak with the wick holes jammed up, then if it did I'd know there was some other problem.
    If you can't force it to leak with the wicks jammed in, then it's a wicking issue, like I have said many times before, wicking is the most important part of a build, other than safety.
     
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  11. KayP

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    Hmm.. I don't remember it bein particularly difficult. I'll try to mess around with my Merlin tomorrow and take a few pics in the process. Did you check if all the o-rings are back in place, i.e. not missing?

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  12. Gasman

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    That's basically what I did in the end and it still leaked but I'm using it right now and not a drop to be seen.
    Thats what I couldn't understand as every person and their dog was stating what a piece of cake it was to build and wick.
    I just kept having leaking issues.
    Building it is very easy but how hard can it be to cut your cotton to the correct length,ensure its of the correct thickness and not over the air intake?

    I was actually surprised at how many different wicking methods were used by different reviewers.
    I took the tank apart several times checked the o rings and everything appeared as it should.

    Don't want to tempt fate but the way I was filling it looks like it may have been the problem.
    The only thing I could think of was a pressure problem and .......
     
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  13. Noe

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    This build looks so sexy!
    Near completion pic:

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  14. Noe

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    Same build in use:

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    This is a 0.32 ohm dual Clapception (type B*) on an Ijoy RDTA deck :)

    *I'm calling it type B because there is another type that uses round wire for the core wire, this one uses flat wire, both types are good flavor chasing coils.
     
  15. KayP

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    Dammit! I should've asked you for some of those of gorgeous coils.. :)

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  16. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

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    About $5 for a 10 pack + a free multitool. All you need to know is FT & Clapception, from there you can find them ;)
     
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  17. KayP

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    Sweet. I best add it to my wish list before I forget it.. again..

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  18. DogMan

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    Still not much nichrome love with exotic wires. So thinking about getting one of these



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  19. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

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    Bit expensive for just a tool that makes coils. Better to spend $ on a good cordless drill & a few bits of wood to make a similar jig, wouldn't be hard to make a similar jig that will do the same job & then you have the drill to use for other jobs as well ;)
     
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  20. DogMan

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    I have 3 drills

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