I silently watched on AVF as people were attacked on both sides when it came to the discussion over counterfeit vaping gear. It was both sickening and counter productive at times. I thought with a new forum there might be a chance for a civil debate on the issue. I myself only buy original gear. That's a personal value-based choice however. I have a slight moral issue with people buying clones, but I'm less accepting of people supporting wholesale theft of the entire box and dice. It just seems wrong to me. Anyway, I'd be interested to see if this forum can have a more civil debate on this issue. Keep it friendly people.