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E-cigarettes: Is Australia missing out?

Discussion in 'Politics, News, Media, Campaigns' started by The Vaper, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. The Vaper

    The Vaper I Vape ∴ I Am

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  3. The Vaper

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    Hmm.. that's a very good question! I did a bit of rapid 'clicking around' and hope that it can be listened to either live, or later, from a link on this page http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/

    Having said that, I see no obvious link there, right now.
     
  4. margyb

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    yeah i just did a quick look and downloaded an app onto my iPad called abc listen
    gives me a few stations to listen to
    thanks Andrew XX
     
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    radio national, repeat times below

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    probably 2nd in line behind jjj for most anti of anti stations, historically
     
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    Pretty balanced. Each thing had a statement and response from other side. Alternating who went first
     
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    Not bad. In the past it was all the bullshitters only. Now we have a good mix. Still the bullshitters in there introducing doubt by talking about the ol chestnut gateway and denigrating the RCP statement as usual. Interesting how the presenter totally dismissed Colin's assertion that smoking cessation has plateaued, but didn't explain why he thought it was wrong (if pressed he would have talked about immigration etc i'm sure).
     
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    balanced
    we can't have a product on a hunch its no more than a hunch FFS ( aus antz) (peters)
    this is not something that should happen in Aus ( its not going to happen on his watch) Greg Hunt
    at least they explained the MCDA approach with ecigs at 100% harmful and vape 5%
    the 95% was always a guess say Aus antz
    its a gateway
    ecig use causes kids to smoke
    good evidence kids are getting chest infections and asthma is worse , dramatic absences from school

    thank heavens Colin Mendelohn and Marewa Glover got a say

    i did record it
     
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    i have emailed it to myself but don't know how to put it on forum
     
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    Those stupid ANTZ

    we will never get vaping legal here on their watch
     
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    They usually podcast anyway.

    You can send it to me to put up, but very likely abc will have it up in the time it takes to email then for me to upload
     
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  16. The Vaper

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    One of the sages of THR advocacy (can't recall quite who) warned when Dr Scott Gottlieb joined the FDA (& optimism was shooting upwards) that there was a lot of research currently in progress & yet to report that was funded by agencies (such as CDC, NIH..) that had been designed to find fault in vape.

    Or to put that in a simpler, more direct way. "Expect the effluent 'science' results to keep flowing for the immediate future."
     
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  18. The Vaper

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    Yes.

    I clicked the link in the MS Edge browser on Windows and got taken to a drop box which prompted me to log-in via Google. As soon as I OK'd that, it started playing. I got so sick to the stomach at the opening statements that I shut it down after the first few seconds.

    But yes, it works here.

    If anyone hears an interesting / compelling new angle from the antis, please let me know. I haven't the patience to listen to another second of it.
     
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  19. margyb

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    Professor Mathew peters its no more than a hunch

    lord give me strength pleeeeeese
     
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    thanks i was nearly a nervous wreck trying to figure out how to do that
    dropbox has changed
    my pc upgrade has changed the way to do things
    i need a :wine::wine:
     
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