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How many have tried Champix and what results?

Discussion in 'Research, Health and Legal' started by Charles Vaper, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Aqualung

    Aqualung Vagrant

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    Tried it, but couldnt finish the course. Developed an absolutely out of character tendency to rage. Scared the crap out of me. Didnt have a chance to affect my smoking behaviour
     
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  2. Jennifer

    Jennifer Pyjama Queen

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    I tried it once, no serious side effects. I had bad indigestion and acid stomach from it though, and extremely weird sleep where I'd wake up in the morning and felt like I had been awake the whole night. Sort of a twilight sleep, not a real sleep. Although I didn't feel particularly tired.

    I only took it for 5 weeks and I did give up smoking fairly easily after the second week. I decided to stop because I just felt like I was someone else. I wasn't entirely comfortable about taking a mind altering medication to start with so I was kind of worried about it the whole time. One day I realised I just wasn't me anymore, I was calm and composed and kind of numb, so I stopped taking them. Within 24 hours I was back! Warts and all. And it was a huge relief.
     
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  3. Steve Thomas

    Steve Thomas Senior Member

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    I tried 1 week. It gave me headaches. I felt slightly sick the whole time. I went off my food too. Just didnt feel like eating. And when i did feel hungry it was at crazy hours of the morning. Id wake up at about 1am eat a cooked meal and go back to bed. I got sweats at night too but that could have been withdrawal from the tar and carbon monoxide from smokes. I got really bad pimple breakouts aswell.
     
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  4. Gasman

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    Never tried it. I got offered a unfinished packet once from someone who had just given up by using the vile sounding things. Luckily I had read some bad stuff about them early on and took them to be polite but flushed them down the toilet when I got home. Probably a very wise move by the sound of things.
     
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  5. Oldhead

    Oldhead Member

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    Anything that blocks neuro receptors within the brain is a serious danger IMO.
    Tried champix out of desperation. Whilst on this crap my wife states i was a diff person (in a bad way).
    Nightmares , anxiety,and irrational mood swings , the fuse was lit almost all the time whilst on this prescription.
    Went back to smoking and resolved all psycological issues. DONT use this drug as nobody can predict its implications whatsoever!!!!!!
    Vaping got me totally of 45 yrs of smoking and my health has never been better . Vaping does not play with your head>
     
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  6. Charles Vaper

    Charles Vaper Senior Member

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    There are times I just want to scream WTF!
    How we allow a drug like this, to not only be prescribed in the first place, but to promote it as a safe and viable means of quitting, is outrageous.
    However, to shun and demonise vaping, when the proof as they say, is in the pudding, is an absolute travesty.

    But one day...
     
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  7. Gasman

    Gasman Senior Member

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    I have to wonder how the governments pharmaceutical department or whatever their called can let this continue. These people obviously have to be highly qualified. Do they have to sign some sort of oath like a doctor or nurse? Even if they don't don't people have a conscious anymore? I think we all agree money talks and with the big pharmaceutical companies breathing down the governments wallet they're being told what to do but as you say Charles it's a travesty. There appears to be an overwhelming body of evidence to show this crap is dangerous with I believe a few suicides attributed to it. We all have bills etc to pay and I can only imagine being in their positions but the truth must one day out. I am in no way medically trained so therefore do not have a clue what I am talking about but with the evidence against Champix and the evidence for vaping mounting how can this almost implausible situation continue without an organization or person with some real clout stepping up and setting the truth straight. And I mean on the worlds stage not just in Australia.
     
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  8. Donna

    Donna Senior Member

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    I've put this up before but it never hurts to remind people. I know mine wasn't reported so I can only imagine how many adverse events there really are:

    CHAMPIX
    Number of reports (cases): 1876

    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 1786

    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 29

    http://www.tga.gov.au/daen/daen-entry.aspx

     
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  9. Gasman

    Gasman Senior Member

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    That's absolutely shocking. I didn't realize it was that prevalent. How in the world can this continue,is the tax dollar really worth people's lives. All those people are somebody's loved ones, it's truly unbelievable that any government can let this situation continue. Don't know what else to say I'm a bit overwhelmed to be honest.
     
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  10. Jennifer

    Jennifer Pyjama Queen

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    The pharmaceutical companies are very, very powerful, they have huge influence. They pretty much set the rules and standards, and only they can afford to adhere to them. They more or less designed, maintain and control the TGA. As the whole shebang is orchestrated by scientists with multiple degrees and publications they command a lot of respect. They are all specialists, focused on a medical solution to everything including the smoking problem.

    They mathematically weigh the health and financial costs of smoking in the population against the cost of new drug side effects against the benefits of high efficacy quit rates. There are many negative reports of Champix, but the numbers are relatively small compared to the numbers of people who have used Champix safely without any issues and successfully quit smoking. To add to that, the powers that influence are very clever at manipulating statistics and numbers in any way they want to achieve a premeditated agenda. And they are focused on a miracle medical solution to the smoking problem, so there is a lot of their hope and need around drugs like Champix. They hope for being the ones to provide a final solution and all the glory and immense financial reward that entails.

    It's hard (impossible?) for a consumer led, out of China, back door, recreational technological product to break through the social paradigm of such a mega institution. Governments, media and the person on the street trust them because they use science. But like all big institutions it has become so insular, out of touch, incestuous and corrupt... that very bad shit will, and has, inevitably happened.
     
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  11. Oldhead

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    Love the way you speak Jennifer . Tell it how it is, but is a life worth the experiment and profits ,because thats what it amounts to.
    We all have short memories ,due to the propaganda and news fed to us each day .
    Stillnox.
    Dow Corning
    Faulty body implants (joints) (hearts) etc.Johston& Johnston
    Thalidamide
    ADHD drugs .
    Etc Etc Etc!!!!!!!
    And yes i fully understand the big picture, we have come a long way in handling disease,medical conditions etc due to pharmecuiticals but the small picture counts as well .
    Some one once said (this small piece of paper will own and run/ruin your life ) $$$$$$$$$$$$.
    OH ,shit forgot BT im a vaper now.LOL.
     
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  12. KITTY

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    I was toldwhen it was first avaible that I couldn't use it as I'd had a concusion!!
    Then years later it was suggested I try it, I did and it worked while I took the pills, 1 week, but in that week I felt like I was going nuts, stopped the pills and went back to the cigs!
     
  13. Nico and Laughter

    Nico and Laughter Senior Member

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    Thats a useful link Donna
     
  14. CCVaper

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    I was on it for a week. horrific nightmares, very moody and impossible to live with. It got me off the smokes for 3 days. total waste of money, time, brain cells and hope. when I vaped for the first time a year ago, I have never touched a cigarette since the first day.... now that sort of speaks for itself. That is my experience and we are all different.
     
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  15. Maggie

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    Back in 2002, when I seriously wanted to quit ( I think) I asked Doc for Zyban as I'd heard/read that it worked, my doc wouldn't prescribe it ... said it wouldn't work with my current meds, so, I went to another Doc .... lied about my history, and presto, went off a happy camper ... two weeks later I was admitted to hosp. after suffering severe panic attacks and becoming delusional ... end of that experiment
    About 4 years ago, my then SIL raved about Champix so off I went again to another Doc and got some .... result was, nightmares, hallucinations and just general zombiness ... decided I'd rather 'die by tobacco' ... then found Vaping ... Hallelulya!

    Big Corps ( Gov'ment) spends Billions of dollars trying to control the human mind!
     
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  16. The Vaper

    The Vaper I Vape ∴ I Am

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    There's also a petition..

    Pfizer: stop ignoring our loved ones' deaths - urgently put on-the-box warning labels on anti-smoking drug Champix.
     
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  17. subyXV

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    I tried it and it didnt work, i actually smoked more than if i wasn't taking it. The side effects, lets not go there please.
     
  18. Wanda

    Wanda Senior Member

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    My gosh this is some bad stuff.
    ive never had it my self but from what it sounds like it should be removed and not given to anyone ever again.
    Its frightening to find out just what doctors will give there patients in the name of proffet, its sad to think where our doctor's are heading there slowly being turned from healers of the sick to glorified pharmacist's due to big pharma kick backs
    Heres my latest example as a walked in to the doctor's room just happend to pass the nexium lady coming out his room sat down (short hand here)
    Doctor my stomach is still in a bad way it going on 5 years now what can i try next?
    Ive tryed a bout 4 different meds now and been on nexium as well for the past year with no change or relief at all, its not working or helping is there anything alse i can try?
    Doctor response, here take theres and see how you go.
    Look at script as im walking out the door yep, script for nexium that hasent worked for the past year and asked not to be proscribed again, and just left it at that :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Squid

    Squid Member VCA Approved Vendor

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    Wife tried it- I made her throw them out after a week. Sleepless nights, arguments, tears, not sure how it affected her.
     
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  20. Maria

    Maria Senior Member

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    I tried it my G.P did not take into my mental health or medication I was taking. I did not think to ask. Had an extreme reaction ( suicidal) not good. and was off it within 2 days. I think the G.P definitely needed to look at what medication I was taking. I have learnt I cannot take any medication that alters the brains balance. So no type of medication to stop smoking would be safe for me personally. There would be other people in this situation though that's not up to me to state I can only speak from my personal experience and vaping of course a godsend for me.
     
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