1. Thank you to all those who submitted to the Federal Inquiry into E-Cigarettes for making your story count in the fight to legalise nicotine in Australia. Submissions may be viewed HERE.
    Dismiss Notice

IJoy Limitless Plus RDTA Review & Build Guide.

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by Noe, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    Thanks to our Gearbest rep Anny, today I have a review of the Ijoy Limitless Plus, which Gearbest has available for sale here Limitless Plus currently for $22.25US as a flashsale.

    I will also be including a build guide, which may be helpful to some vapers.
    Anny also kindly sent along some organic cotton for wicking Genuine Koh Gen Do Cotton
    Also sent was a 10 pack of FocusEcig pre-made 0.5 ohm coils Fused Clapton coils
    Last but not least, at my request a nifty little tool made by Wotofo & included with some of their atomisers, which has 2 different sized hex keys & a philips screwdriver on it Multitool
    All of these products are, IMO, good value & combined will only add about $10Au to the cost of the Limitless Plus. Certainly the Wick & the Coils I am very happy with & will get a lot of use from, the tool is well made & is a welcome addition to my vaping tool kit.
    However the tool would be more useful for the Limitless Plus clone I have than it is for the Limitless Plus, since that uses hex head grub screws, where the Original uses philips heads throughout.

    Edit:
    I have just been made aware that there is a discount coupon for the IJOY Limitless Plus RDTA, this applies to all color variations:
    Coupon : ijoybuy Coupon price : $21.99USD
    link : http://www.gearbest.com/rebuildable-atomizers/pp_391924.html
    Other Ijoy products (manufacturers of the Limitless Plus) are available here:
    Ijoy products page : http://www.gearbest.com/ijoy-_gear/


    UNBOXING:
    I always get excited by new vape gear arriving & although I had been using a Limitless Plus clone for some time, when this package arrived from Gearbest it was no exception, I couldn't wait to open it.
    I was also eager to see if the cotton was genuine Koh Gen Do, it is & a pack this size used with this RDTA will last for at least a year when building the deck as below.
    The Wotofo tool is also genuine & of good quality.
    The Focusecig coils are well made & come in a nice, low profile, squared case, this case will not take up a lot of room in your vape kit, unlike some other pre-made coil cases.

    (all pics can be clicked on to see in full size)
    [​IMG]

    The RDTA comes packaged in one of those nice clear plastic display boxes & has a cardboard outer sleeve with the Ijoy scratch to check sticker on the back of it for authenticity checking, also on the back is some specifications & product information.

    [​IMG]

    Inside you'll find the RDTA, a spare GREY colored glass tank (this looks to me to be proper colored glass & not glass that has a membrane coating), a Black handled screwdriver which is quite good & an improvement upon the little "Magic Blue Screwdriver" that comes with many atties and a bag of spares with some other goodies in it.

    [​IMG]

    In the bag of spares is a complete set of replacement o-rings, full set of replacemnt screws, 2 very decent looking stapled clapton coils (which unfortunately they do not indicate the wire used to make them with but I would assume Kanthal), a 510 drip tip adapter & a silicone single coil adapter/plug.
    The drip tip adapter can be used on its own without a 510 drip tip fitted & acts as a bore reducer on the chuff cap(which can be used without the adapter) but I am using my own 510 Drip Tip in the adapter & I find it has more than enough draw for me.

    [​IMG]


    IN USE:
    I absolutely love vaping with this RDTA, for several reasons.

    Unlike bottom coil/bottom AFC RTAs, this has the AFC & coil on top (kind of obvious), which removes one of my biggest gripes with a lot of tanks - juice leaking or seeping onto my mods.
    Electronics don't like to swim in juice (it's true just ask them), I worry every time I see juice on one of my electronic mods, particularly if it is around the 510 connection where it can find its way inside to the electronics.
    On a mech mod, I am less concerned but it is still a problem if you have to clean juice off/out of your mod.
    The Limitless Plus could also be named the Limitleaks Plus, I have not had it leak at all, no matter how I have positioned it. The only time I have had an issue with juice coming out of it, is when refilling & not being careful enough.

    The deck is large & easy to build on, as you can see in the build guide.
    With a large deck comes the advantage of being able to use larger diameter coils. IME Larger inner diameter on a coil equals more juice flow, more juice flow means cleaner wicks, that last longer without being replaced.
    Below is one of the 2 wicks I removed after 10 days of use(both were in similar condition), 2pics - 1 of each side of the wick.
    As you can see I have spread it apart to reveal the inner wick, the "gunk" is virtually non-existent & the wick has really only gone black on the outer part, where it was in contact with the coil, the wick still has some juice on it, which is the brownish color on it.
    I could have continued using these wicks for at least another 4 or 5 days, the flavor was still good that I was getting when vaping with them but I wanted to take pics for this review.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    It has more than enough airflow for even the most hardened cloud chasers but can be closed off enough for vapers that prefer a more restrictive lung inhale. MTL vaping with it is possible but that is not its intended purpose, there are better devices made for MTL vaping, although I have not tried using it with the single coil plug installed & this may make it possible for a MTL experience, since one side of the AFC is then completely blocked.

    Depending on your build (& wattage setting of your mod), you can get a warm to hot vape, those that prefer a cooler vape may enjoy a bottom coil RTA more. However a cooler vape can be achieved, using a non-sub-ohm build & less power.
    Personally I like a warm vape, as I find this brings out better flavor, without scolding my lungs etc & with the build I put into it this is exactly what I am getting.

    The flavor this RDTA produces is as good an any RDA I have used. Dripping was a great thing at one point in the evolution of vaping but with devices like this being produced, is becoming outdated.
    RDAs still have a place for Squonkers or for DiYers wanting to test new juices but for every day vaping, dripping is not as convenient as a device that can produce the same great flavor, without the mess, that only needs to be filled once per day.

    Filling the Limitless Plus is not difficult at all, there are 2 methods you can use.
    You can lift the barrel so that the bottom edge is still on the top oring, leaving the barrel attached:

    [​IMG]

    Or you can remove the barrel & expose the deck/coils:

    [​IMG]

    Either method works fine & there is plenty of room for nozzles of many various dropper bottles to fit, even glass bottles that have eye droppers fill it with ease.
    One thing to be aware of when filling, is not to create a liquid seal around the fill port, this will create an air lock & have juice coming down the side of the tank. The fill port also acts as the air release for the tank while it is being filled.
    However you can fill the tank completely, right up to where the fill port is almost over flowing, I have done this, then stood the tank upright & juice does not flow out from the hole.

    Another great feature of this tank, that I really like about it, is that you don't need to ever remove it from your mod, not to fill, not to rebuild the deck or to replace the wicks, nor for cleaning.
    For those of you with RX200's, this is a very good thing indeed, as the 510 connection on the RX200's can in some cases be an issue, the less you have to screw on/off devices onto the 510, the less likely it is going to be an issue. Also the thread length on the RDTA's 510, isn't too long for the RX200, which is suspected to be the problem with some tanks on that device.


    CONCLUSION:
    There is very little I can fault on the Limitless Plus RDTA but I did find one thing.
    The AFC slots on the barrel are slightly off set, this means that unless the AFC is left wide open, the air flow from one side is more than from the other. I do not think this is by design & it may just be my unit that has this fault, mass production can sometimes have units with minor defects.
    It doesn't hurt the performance of the device at all but it would be nice if the AFC was open the same amount on both sides.

    I like everything else about this RDTA, for me it ticks all the boxes. Some may not like the patterning on the outside of the tank, I think it adds some style to the tank.
    The 6.5ml capacity means I get more than a full day's vaping on it, this may not be true for everyone but for my vape style it is. Using a 4-5ml tank could sometimes see me needing to refill it at an inconvenient time, with the larger 6.5ml I can refill at any time of the day that is convenient.

    Ijoy have done a great job in producing this tank, if you are not a strictly MTL vaper, then this may also be the tank for you.
    I once again thank Anny & Gearbest for allowing me to review this remarkable RDTA.

    GRATUITOUS VAPE PORN:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2016
    sirfoxey, Angela, Wanda and 1 other person like this.
  2. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    THE BUILD:
    As with all new atomisers, I took the Limitless Plus apart & washed all the pieces in warm soapy water, however there was no noticeable smell or oily residue on the RDTA but I feel this is a sensible precaution for all newly received devices that will hold ejuice.

    [​IMG]

    I let all the parts dry naturally, then chose 2 of the Fused Clapton coils to put on the deck.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Because the deck is large & allows for some nice big coils, I wanted to use 3.5mm inner diameter on the coils.
    The coils in the pack have a slightly smaller diameter (I think it is 3mm, sorry didn't measure this), so I slightly unwound one leg of each coil then screwed the coil onto a 3.5mm rod. Unwinding a leg slightly helps the coil get started when screwing it onto the rod.
    This turns a 6 wrap coil into a 5 wrap coil, when you are done, which is ideal IMO for this deck. If done correctly(take your time), the coil will still have good contact between the wraps.

    Fitting the coils into the deck is easy, the post holes are large & owing to the velocity style deck, there is no need to measure & trim the leg lengths prior to fitting either coil. Simply fit them in & trim the excess legs when both coils are fitted, with a pair of flush cutters.
    Adjust the coils to the same height, IMO best results will come from coils that sit above the AFC slots, this way the air flows from under the coil& to the side, which allows air to wrap around the coil as it passes through the atty. Having the coils lower will mean the air flow comes in, hits the side & the top of the coil, missing the bottom & the back side of each coil.

    With the coils situated the way you want them, you need to pinch & tweak them using pliers or tweezers to get out hot spots/shorts & to ensure both are glowing from middle out, with a nice even glow on each coil. The glow should look the same on both coils, if one looks hotter than the other, you need to tweak some more, until they both glow with the same intensity.

    After you have the coils firing correctly, you need to give them some wick.
    Getting the wick right on any RBA is just as important as getting the coils firing correctly, if your coils dont fire correctly you'll have problems, if your wicking isn't right, you'll have problems.
    With the Koh Gen Do supplied by GearBest, cutting wicks of the correct size was easy. I took 1 of the 10 sheets & cut it in half, then put the 2 halves together & cut about 1/4 off to make the wicks. So from the pack of 10 sheets you can easily make 80 wicks for the Limitless Plus, which is equal to about a 1 year supply.

    [​IMG]

    To prepare the wicks I peel the top layer of the wick off of each wick, this exposes the fluffier inside of the cotton & helps juice flow more freely through the wick.

    [​IMG]

    I leave the bottom layer on & then fold the bottom layer into the middle from both sides & then fold that in half again, bringing the cut edges of the cotton into the center of the wick & leaving the fluffier cotton exposed on the outside. Then roll the wick between thumb & forefinger (a bit like rolling a RYO cigarette) & pinch one end, giving it a twist to make it easier the thread through the coil.

    With the wick threaded through, I move it back & forth in the coil to get it to the correct amount of tension, ideally you want a wick that slides with a little bit of "grip" on the coil (snug).
    You don't want a wick that is too tight in the coil this will cause dry or burnt hits, equally you don't want a wick that is too loose this can cause the deck to flood or if the wick is really loose cause the juice not be able to keep up with heat from the coil & leave the top of the coil dry, giving a slight metallic taste to your vape(hot spot).
    Finally, cut a 2-3mm off the twisted end of the wick & get it centered in the coil.
    Do the same on the other side & you'll have something that looks like this:

    [​IMG]

    The deck has cut outs for the ends of the wicks to sit into, you need to be careful not to have strands of cotton on the threads next to the cut outs.
    I found that applying a a few drops of juice to the top of each end of the wick, helped to keep stray strands from wandering onto the threads as I worked on the other sides of the wicks, the juice also helps to hold the wicks in place.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    This was my first attempt to build on this deck, I'd left the wicks a little longer than needed by about 2mm on each end, on my following re-wick, I trimmed the wicks shorter & had no loss in performance. The advantage of less wick is it leaves more room for juice & you have less wasted juice when it comes time to replace the wicks but as long as your wicks length is somewhere between the top of the glass tank & the bottom of the deck they'll be fine.

    [​IMG]

    With the wicks all in place, with no strands of cotton in the threads, place the tank sealing top over the deck & screw it on when it feels tight it should line up with the fill port in line with one of the coils. Make sure there isn't any wick in the way of the fill port, use a small screwdriver to push the wick out the way if you need to (another advantage of trimming the wicks shorter, they shouldn't be in the way ).

    [​IMG]

    When you have it all set in place, you can soak the wicks fully, which will have the deck looking like this:

    [​IMG]

    You can now fill the tank with juice, it will hold an impressive 6.5ml when completely filled to the top.
    Next add the barrel (add a drop or two of juice to the orings the barrel slides over first to make it easier to slide on), the air flow slots on the barrel are very large & much larger than I need, so for me I line up one edge of each slot with the edge of each coil.

    [​IMG]

    The top cap is also the AFC, with the 510 adapter, it comes in 3 parts. The AFC part screws into the Delrin top cap (unlike on the clones which are press fitted), this means that over time if the delrin expands a little, the metal AFC will still be able to screw in tightly.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Adjusting the AFC is easy, thanks to the knurling on the side of the Delrin top cap, for me I find there is enough airflow with the AFC set to be in line with the other edge of the coil to the edge the barrel is set to (the AFC is roughly 1/3 open like this). This ensures that the entire coil has air passing over & around it, which IMO is ideal.

    [​IMG]

    You can now add your own drip tip & start vaping or you can use the Limitless Plus without a drip tip, if you want a wider bore to vape on.
     
    sirfoxey, Wanda and rupert like this.
  3. rupert

    rupert Crazy Chemist

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Location:
    NE NSW and SE QLD
    Great review Noe :)
    I've been looking at this for a little while, and it looks like a solid RDTA.
     
    Noe likes this.
  4. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    I have just been made aware that there is a discount coupon for the IJOY Limitless Plus RDTA, this applies to all color variations:
    Coupon : ijoybuy Coupon price : $21.99USD
    link : http://www.gearbest.com/rebuildable-atomizers/pp_391924.html
    Other Ijoy products (manufacturers of the Limitless Plus) are available here:
    Ijoy products page : http://www.gearbest.com/ijoy-_gear/
     
    rupert likes this.
  5. rupert

    rupert Crazy Chemist

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Location:
    NE NSW and SE QLD
    Slightly off topic, but any word on the additional decks for the joy combo?
    Figured if anyone @Noe 's it will be @Noe
     
    emu likes this.
  6. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    I could try to find out but I think unless you want the look of the Ijoy Combo, it's pretty much the same thing as the Limitless Plus in its RDTA form & the LP is cheaper ;)
    However the styling of that black/gold is nice :)
     
    rupert likes this.
  7. Wanda

    Wanda Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2016
    Location:
    Mandurah WA
    Top review :thumbup:
     
    Noe likes this.
  8. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    Do you already own one of these?
    I know you like to rebuild, so if you don't own one I hope this review has helped you or if you do own one that maybe the build guide has :)
     
  9. Wanda

    Wanda Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2016
    Location:
    Mandurah WA
    No dont have one yet, been looking to get one for a while tho, its been on my wish list for a while, it might be fasttech order time soon i think :hmmm:
    helped a lot thanks, i watch a lot of youtube reviews but you can never really tell if there being a bit brought off to give a good review or not with all the gear they get given, so having someone who is your average veteran vaper give a straight up review is a plus :)
     
    Noe likes this.
  10. emu

    emu Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2015
    Location:
    Chorkerup Rd W.A
    @Noe have you had a look at the iJoy combo
    You can get the 1, 4, 5, and 6 here http://www.myvaporstore.com/iJoy-Combo-RDTA-Build-Deck-p/lim1730.htm

    I just bought the Ijoy Combo RDTA @rupert, love the idea of interchangeable decks, comes with the imc-2, 3 and the pre-made coil.
    Should be a great flavour maker by all reports and 25mm will look good on the Maxo Quad
     
  11. Aqualung

    Aqualung Vagrant

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2015
    Originally posted in another thread, and copied here for continuity. I purchased the Limitless on the basis of this great review

    Couldn't wait to give it a go, so started with the supplied tri-coil set up. Don't know what the wire was, but an outstanding vape.
    Just finished installing the fused claptons in the velocity deck. Just breaking in now, and confident of an even better vape.
    I didn't modify them for wider diameter, but wicked with scottish roll, just cos there seems so much room, and wanted lots of cotton in there. No leaking, and getting headspins from chain vaping, trying to test for potential dry hits. None even close.
    My only stumbling block, was some difficulty getting the air flow sleeve to turn.
    And not sure about the chuff cap, maybe just needs getting used to. Might try a more familiar drip tip later.
    Really liking it, and yes, flavour is "on point", and just getting better as the coils bed in.
     
    Noe likes this.
  12. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    If you live in the US you can, that vendor doesn't ship here.

    HG has some of them available now & some on pre-sale:
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/IJOY-COMBO-RDTA-Building-Deck-IMC2.html
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/IJOY-Build-Deck-for-COMBO-Limitless-RDTA-IMC-7-8-9.html
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/IJOY-COMBO-RDTA-Building-Deck.html
    Pre-made replacements too:
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/IJOY-Replacement-IMC-Coil-3-for-COMBO-Limitless-RDTA.html
    https://www.heavengifts.com/product/IJOY-COMBO-Replacement-IMC-Coil.html
     
    emu likes this.
  13. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2015
    Location:
    Noewhere
    I prefer a 510 Drip Tip to a Chuff cap, I think it gives better flavor with the 510DT because as the vapor is drawn into the DT it gets condensed, intensifying the flavor a bit :)
    Chuff caps are primarily about blowing clouds & give better flavor at high wattages(like 50W or above) than they do low wattages.
     
    Aqualung and emu like this.
  14. Aqualung

    Aqualung Vagrant

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2015
    Yes.
    Changed to a 510 DT and coils nicely worn in, very nice.
     
    Noe likes this.

Share This Page