This thread is about initial simple mouth to lung vaping, and in particular about getting started. It's not about cloudchasing, or fiddling with your watts and voltages, or wrapping your own coils - all fun things in the long run - but getting started is complicated enough without all these other things to get in the way. I was lucky when I started because I was advised by a pro who put me onto a simple AIO (all in one) starter kit with 18mg juice. My first big mistake was to start by sucking the vapour directly into my lungs (DTL) - a bit stupid really because most of us don't smoke that way - instead we draw the smoke into our mouth before sucking it into our lungs (mouth to lung or MTL). My second big mistake was to then immediately order a more expensive complex box mod as my backup. Not only was the draw too loose, but it popped and spat at me. It took a lot of fiddling and assistance both here and from the manufacturer to reach a just-tolerable vape (for me), and even then the thing is so complex to set up, I'm not sure I could get it back to the setting it's currently on. My third big mistake was to assume that just because a starter kit was promoted as being an MTL AIO, it would suit me (or any beginner vaper).