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Tasmanian health plan 2016

Discussion in 'Tasmania' started by margyb, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. margyb

    margyb Great Balls of Fire

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    This was in the news recently

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-30/tasmanian-government-to-triple-tobacco-retail-licence/7674902

    Just found the health plan they have

    link
    https://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/__data/...Healthy_Tasmania_Strategic_Plan_Web_v8_LR.pdf
    quotes
    "
    We will increase our licence fees to reflect the full cost of regulation, administration, enforcement and compliance of the licensing regime. The fee increase will be phased over a two year period, rising to $731.34
    on 1 January 2017 and approximately $1097.00 from 1 January 2018.

    Controlling the sale, use and promotion of electronic cigarettes to prevent normalisation of smoking and sale to children.

    We will take action to improve public education regarding electronic cigarettes and establish a monitoring and compliance system. However, we will prohibit the sale of electronic cigarettes to people under the minimum age, display and advertising and use in smoke free areas.

    While we will leave open the option of supporting electronic cigarettes as a cessation aid in the future as further evidence emerges, our approach seeks to strike a balance and provide responsible education for Tasmanians about the potential health risks associated with these products. This way we can prevent the re-normalisation of smoking-like behaviour and ensure that uptake is minimalised (particularly by young people)."
     
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  2. Judith

    Judith Mostly harmless

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    Had to laugh at this gem from the Strategic Plan.

    Building on the action we are already taking,
    it will enable us to better support pregnant
    women to quit smoking before they conceive

    or from the earliest stages of pregnancy.
    I think they go a work experience person to write the Plan.

    Honestly, I worry about the calibre of public health people.

    As part of our commitment, we are setting
    ambitious targets to reduce smoking. For
    people under 25, we are committing to
    halving the gap between the Tasmanian and
    national youth smoking rates by 2020 and
    to reduce smoking rates to better than the
    national average by 2025.
    Part of this is a big advertising campaign on TV. Do young people still watch TV?

    Looks like we had better try to contact some pollies ASAP.

    All required regulatory and legislative
    amendments to give effect to the actions
    listed in this section will be tabled in
    Parliament as a priority​
     
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  3. margyb

    margyb Great Balls of Fire

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    good idea :)
     
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  4. DogMan

    DogMan Butler

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    monitoring and compliance?

    of vendors, do they mean? i didn't click the link
     
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  5. DogMan

    DogMan Butler

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    also interesting wording
     
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  6. Old Grump

    Old Grump Guest

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    Here is something that my wife wrote that as a medical professional she asks you to consider for your battle to legalise nicotine:

    The issue of smoking is contentious. Many parties have vested interests in this field. From the perspective of a health professional, we need to reduce society`s use of this dependence for better health outcomes. As an employee of the Tasmanian Health Service (T.H.S.), one is obliged to undertake mandatory education. One of the mandatories is the “A.B.C. of Smoking Cessation”. This program was initially formatted before the common usage of Electronic Smoking Devices (E.S.D`s). The A.B.C. emphasis is to establish a person`s smoking status, enquire about their thoughts on ceasing smoking, and if interested offer advice re treatments, support etc.

    Over the last three years or so E.S.D`s have come ahead in leaps and bounds. Overseas there have been numerous studies and research undertaken regarding this method of nicotine delivery. We know nicotine is a drug. We know smoking is inhaling carcinogenic agent`s, nicotine and addiction additives. E.S.D`s are according to overseas studies (Great Britain, U.S.A.) a healthier way of delivering nicotine to a smoker. And yet in our A.B.C. Mandatory nowhere are E.S.D`s mentioned.

    We as a health organization have to look at why people smoke. The psychological aspect of smoking isn`t covered in this mandatory. It appears that Nicotine Replacement Therapy (N.R.T.) is the only way of assisting people to cease smoking. Some people like smoking, it fulfills a subconscious desire of security. I think Maslow`s Heirichial needs plays a role in this.

    As a health organization are we going to ignore this form of therapy? From a personal viewpoint I no longer have to inhale secondary smoke, but my partner can continue puffing away on a healthier form of N.R.T., as well alleviating his psychological stress needs. His nicotine usage has virtually dropped to zero, but when stressed he will up the amount. I have recommended other people use E.S.D`s as a support for smoking cessation and have known several who have consequently ceased completely. The number of people though that have used N.R.T. and failed, for various reasons, are numerous.

    Personally, E.S.D`s need to be considered as an adjunct to smoking cessation and should be encouraged as a healthier alternate to smoking. It should not be dismissed outright. E.S.D`s are used throughout Europe, which also have the retail facilities to support the practice. Are we as health professionals going to allow multinationals dictate to us how we treat individuals? These multinational tobacco companies created the problem in the first place.
     
  7. Donna

    Donna Senior Member

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    Just curious @Old Grump , why would your partner use the term ESD ie. with the word "smoking" in it. Doesn't this sell the wrong message that vaping is really just smoking when it's not?
     
  8. Old Grump

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    Becase that is the way the medical people in her situation choose to call them alas. I have myself refered to them as alternate nicotine delivery systems. I understand where you are comming from. As she also said that in the days that that the A.B.C was formulated no one heard of vapes or e-cigs. She has been in this profession for close on 40 years.
     
  9. Judith

    Judith Mostly harmless

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    I understand that most medical people call them ENDS (electronic nicotine delivery systems), electronic cigarettes (EC), ANDS (alternative nicotine delivery systems) or e-cigarettes. Many people think that e-cigarettes or electronic cigarettes are unfortunate names because of the "cigarette". ESD (electronic smoking devices) as a name is almost certain to be rejected by everyone except the enemies of vaping.

    Why someone would use the word "smoking" when there is no smoke has me puzzled too .
     
  10. Old Grump

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    Buggered if know as well. She has said feel free to change it to the correct terminology.

    Moving foward tobacco free World!
     
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  11. Old Grump

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    Here is a reply from the CEO of Tasmanian Heath Service regarding our discussions and submissions to him. So as you can see and I quote "...as a harm minimisation' strategy, they have much going for them. So our time going to the meeting was not entirely wasted contrary to some sentiments expressed by others. The gent seems interested enought. As to the TV documentary I think he is referring to Miricale or Menace and that was screened on SBS as well.
    I agree some flavours need more research, like one of my favourites Caramel Popcorn and I now rarely vape it.

    If others in Tassie want to write to him his email is: david.alcorn@ths.tas.gov.au He seems genuinly interested in Tobacco Harm Reduction. Hopefully Tasmania will not go down the same path as Victoria, Queensland and W. Aust.
    The reply is in italics below.


    Thank you for your thoughtful email.

    I will revisit federal & state govt policy re electronic nicotine delivery systems. Did you see the ABC TV catalyst on the devices? Other compounds in the liquids (eg scents & flavours) can still contain potential carcinogens.

    However as a 'harm minimisation' strategy, they have much going for them.

    Kind Regards

    David.
     
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  12. vapetrail

    vapetrail New Member

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  13. margyb

    margyb Great Balls of Fire

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    At first glance
    E-cigs are not tobacco products ( page 10)
    But vaping will be now referred to as smoking ( Cause it is easier for the government to just add it in to current legislation i.e.they don't have to change what smoke free means in the Act )


    QUOTE
    Page 10

    · The existing model for specialist tobacconists will remain unchanged. A specialist tobacconist is a retailer that only sells tobacco, tobacco ancillary products (eg. devices only used for tobacco), matches, and cigarette or pipe lighters. E-cigarettes are not tobacco products, nor are they ancillary tobacco products.

    Page 12

    1. Smoke-free areas

    o · Using an e-cigarette in existing smoke-free areas will be banned. This is often called vaping and will be referred to as ‘smoking’ in the Act so the concept of ‘smoke-free areas’ does not need to change.

    o · The existing ban on smoking will also be clarified in respect of non-tobacco smoking (such as smoking a herbal cigarette) so it is clear that all smoking is banned in smoke-free areas – no matter what substance is being smoked or its delivery system.
     
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  14. Christina Ballerina

    Christina Ballerina Senior Member

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    How do they get to call vaping smoking, I will never understand ggrrhh.
     
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