Discussion in 'Beginners' started by Jupiter, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. Jupiter

    Jupiter Administrator

    Jun 2, 2015
    Please be aware that nicotine is classified under several Schedules in the Poisons Act in this country. It is illegal to sell or supply without a license in Australia and as such has to be sourced overseas.

    There are various strengths to choose from when ordering from overseas websites. Vaper Cafe Australia DOES NOT RECOMMEND 'PURE' NICOTINE at a concentration of 99% (999-1000mg/ml). Mishandling of pure nicotine and high nicotine concentrations can lead to serious consequences, including death. Pure and high strength nicotine liquid (higher than 100mg/ml, or 10%) is also dangerous to postal workers, and others who come in contact with it while in transit, due to the chance of damage and spillage of the product. Nicotine is easily and quickly absorbed through the skin, poisoning can occur this way as well as through ingestion or inhalation.

    Be aware that it only takes a very small amount of liquid nicotine to kill a child or a pet.

    When working with nicotine it is important to have a good knowledge of the potential danger and correct safety practices. Please do some thorough research about safe handling practices, the consequences of spillages, incorrect nicotine mixing, and the symptoms of over dosing on nicotine before you purchase it. Handle with caution;

    -Wear gloves, and clean spills off your skin immediately.
    -Take extreme care to avoid splashing in your eyes.
    -Don’t mix or handle nicotine liquids around children.
    -Store all nicotine liquids in a secure, safe place out of reach of children and pets.
    -Make sure your calculations are correct when mixing doublers with high strength nicotine liquid.

    Nicotine for use by vapers can be referred to as Unflavoured Nicotine Base, Nicotine Liquid or Nicotine Juice, (or Pure Nicotine-which is extremely dangerous).

    Nicotine in liquid form for mixing or DIY comes in a variety of strengths, the usual and recommended ones are:
    -36mg/ml = 3.6%
    -48mg/ml = 4.8%
    -100mg/ml = 10%

    mg/ml means: milligrams per millilitre


    Please do not discuss or mention nicotine at strengths higher than 100mg/ml on the open forum of Vaper Cafe Australia.
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  2. Noe

    Noe Adorably quirky ... QUIRKY Noe! VCA Approved Post Whore

    Jun 2, 2015
    While not down playing the above at all, it is important not to panic if you do spill any nicotine juice on your skin or anywhere else.
    A spill is serious but it is not normally life threatening, you do not need to rush to the tap to wash a spill off your skin, even 100gm/ml, but you do need to wash it off & the sooner the better.
    Nicotine will absorb through your skin but the nicotine is suspended in the liquid, it is not all going to magically absorb immediately.

    Wash any spill off your skin, keep kids & pets away from it & clean it up, with paper towel or rags, then wash the area with a wet rag.
    If the spill is on carpet, use a dry towel to absorb as much of the liquid as possible, then use a damp towel to dilute what is in the carpet, think of it a bit like you have spilled red wine or coffee on a carpet & are trying to get the stain out (nic liquid generally does not leave stains).
    Treating it like that will get the majority of the nicotine out, what is left will degrade over time & be rendered harmless but keep kids & pets away from that area of carpet for a few days at least.
    Of course you could also shampoo the carpet, which would probably remove it better.
    The best idea is not to spill nicotine liquid on the carpet in the first place, if you mix on a table over a hard floor like tiles or lino that is a better practice & you won't be spilling any on carpet, which is much harder to clean if there is a spill.

    A mild overdose of nicotine will likely cause mild headache, warm/hot flushes & nausea, sensitivity to bright light may also be a symptom.
    These are warning signs, ibuprofen will help, drinking water will also help, as will laying down for 30mins or so until the symptoms pass but these symptoms are unlikely even if you spill a large amount of 100mg/ml on your skin & rinse it off quickly, so do not panic.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2015
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  3. DaveJ

    DaveJ I Vape

    Jun 2, 2015
    Perth, Western Australia
    Yes - agree with all that has been said above.

    Added suggestion. When preparing to mix your liquids
    * Try to select a quiet time - so you will not be distracted. (Helps to avoid errors and slip-ups)
    * Pick an area suitable - with easy access to clean, running water and easy to clean hard surfaces. Often that will be at the kitchen bench/sink.
    * Try to be organised when doing your mixing - only remove bottle caps when required, and replace lids as soon as you have finished with that bottle, for example.
    * Take your time and do not try to rush.
    * Take care to clean your area and containers thoroughly.

    Again, do not be alarmed - just work with a little care.
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  4. Big O

    Big O Member

    Jun 12, 2015
    Morayfield, QLD
    And don't try shelve it in ya blurter like that reddit guy!
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  5. vapetrail

    vapetrail Member

    Jun 13, 2015
    haha, poor guy. I hope he washed it off right before he jumped online to ask for help. Nicotine should be stored in a food grade jar out of reach of children but also be concealed, you don't want to reach for the shelf with that spilling on your face.
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  6. Broony

    Broony Senior Member

    Jun 27, 2015
    Right side of Bris when facing Northish
    By rescheduling eLiquid to S2 or S5(I think?) The laws can be changed to what we can import Do it Yourselfers can still make your own but would not be able to import 99% nicotine without a license but high enough strength eLiquid can be made out or 10% nicotine base but 95% of vapers who buy premade could find it easier to import high amounts for self, family and friends because the limit could be removed. If only we could get a modern political party in to parliament.
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2015
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  7. Annie

    Annie Hellraiser

    Jun 12, 2015
    Launceston, TAS
    We import nicotine as an S7 poison, not specifically mentioned in the regulations as a banned substance. Other reasons to import nicotine into Australia is as a pesticide used by veterinarians and it is also an allowed organic pesticide for farmers who have organic certification. The maximum legal concentration is 20% or 200mg/mL. This is according to Federal law. However, in every state of Australia, nicotine is illegal to possess without a licence, or a prescription written by an Australian registered GP or medical specialist. If you have a prescription for nicotine, you can import it as a therapeutic good, and it is subject to a "no more than 3 months supply in any one importation" and "no more than 15 months supply in a 12 month period."
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  8. Broony

    Broony Senior Member

    Jun 27, 2015
    Right side of Bris when facing Northish
    • New laws need to bewritten in regards to eLiquid Full Stop eLiquid
      has Nicotine in it but is NOT nicotine liquid hence changes need as the current form is outdated.
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  9. Vapeman

    Vapeman New Member

    Aug 8, 2017
    So the government is actually putting children in danger by not letting us buy eLiquid with nicotine in it. Stupid. Not to mention all the money I'm sending off to New Zealand.
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  10. Annie

    Annie Hellraiser

    Jun 12, 2015
    Launceston, TAS
    That's certainly how I see it, Vapeman. A lot of people aren't doing it on purpose, they're doing it in ignorance. Truly, anyone who understands how dangerous it is without proper laboratoy facilities is a first class candidate for the Darwin awards, AND incredibly selfish - not thinking of the harms that liquid could do to someone who was contaminated by a parcel leakage. While I enjoy DIY, I'd sacrifice DIY in a heartbeat if I could get good quality flavours I liked at the nicotine level I like in a vape shop. .. and then economy. Those profits going to small Australian mostly family businesses. What's not to like about that?!?
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