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Discussion in 'Ask the Veterans' started by Ivan, Mar 7, 2016.
Have a relaxing break Dr.
I think most people will agree you've definitely earnt it.
I'll probably end up trying to see what links we can forge between the Indonesian vaping community and the rest of the world. Obsession never rests! But I do hope to climb a volcano with my kids too.
As you do.
Just make sure it's a dormant volcano as we'd all like you and your family to return safe and sound.
I miss Bali too and I'm indonesian lol...
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Yes I found a snus vendor prior to my last visit to Bali, online but unfortunately never got to visit the vendor, since it was a long way away from where we were staying (relatively speaking, Bali is quite a small island). I'm hoping that when we visit next time that I get a chance to visit the snus vendor & some vape vendors
Not that small, go to from the airport to Lavina takes many hours of looking at many many rice fields.
Police officer doing his Public Health duty setting an example for the people.
Sorry, too hard to post images here so I posted to Aussie Cloud Chasers on Facebook!
It has been an interesting time here. Besides the normal holiday stuff, I've had quite a nicotine adventure! I've visited 3 vape shops. Vaping is growing strongly here. 2 shops sold only 3 mg eliquid and cater to enthusiasts (including the one literally over the road from where we are staying). The other, older one, C-style is much better, with a range to suit most people up to 18 mg/ml and Joyetech AIO's etc. They also allow sampling.
It's interesting seeing vaping evolve in a developing country where there is no suppression in practice. It appears that Indonesia officially bans vaping however no one has heard of this in Bali! Vape shops prosper and grow.
New shops tend to cater for enthusiasts and I do worry that older smokers may not want such clouds/drippers/sub ohm and if they go into one of these shops they may be turned off. However this is where the money is, enthusiasts getting the latest gear which mostly is bigger and bigger wattage and clouds and lower nic and TVF 32 etc etc. Low nic/big clouds also helps juice sales.
Younger adults tend to be enthusiasts and this of course will encourage ban hammers and offend the WHO etc. On the other hand, it is diverting young people from smoking very powerfully; who would go back to smoking when vape makes so much more clouds? It isn't good that options aren't there for everybody's needs though.
Another interesting thing from this nicotine paradise is that Swedish snus is sold in a number of shops, however it is only portion snus in little 16 - 20 gram quantities for 16 bucks each tin. 1$ per gram is getting close to ransomed snus.
Of course I had a look at other options, and I found one little shop down a lane that sells a locally made los snus in 50 gram tins, Tiger Snus. It's los, it's strong and it's only 9 bucks a tin.
So back in Oz again, great trip, did the volcano and no one died, (actually there's 3 that are climbed and people only die on the largest one and we did the smallest one!). Vaping is really getting common with the young adults despite costing 50 cents a ml vaping large amounts of 3 mg when a pack of smokes is only $1.50. It's great to see how vaping is feasible even in poor countries. I think I made one local guy rich (in the future) by explaining how to import nic and DIY and he could see how he could go from DIY to selling, deeply undercut the other shops and still make a good profit. Lots of dynamic young people looking for a way to get ahead. Not many people interested in consumer advocacy however as no one cares about crushing vaping and they don't have the media scare stories so most people see that it's obviously better than smoking. Not much to fight against in a nicotine paradise!
I am glad that you or any family members didn't die.
But no matter what.
Somehow it is always money.
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